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Sh*t That Makes the Invisible Visible, AKA Sh*t That Breeders Say

The most evolved folk sometimes suffer from foot in mouth disease. Read about the phenomenon that is now hitting YouTube and discover what to avoid saying to someone who is trying to get pregnant.

You HAVE to see this!” was the comment posted with a link on my Facebook wall. Now armed with a good excuse to avoid doing laundry, I clicked and the You Tube video viral “Sh*t White Girls Say To Black Girls” started playing. I laughed til I cried and that was my introduction to all kinds of Sh*t that people say.

Creatively pushing the envelope, these videos are now flooding the internet. ‘The Sh*t that ...’ formula is delicious mixture of  mimicry, controversy and thought provoking material. In a heart beat, we instantly get it.  

In fact when you watch these clips, lengthy explanations aren’t needed as they provide an exquisite mirror to our experience. It’s as if the volume is suddenly turned up and a bright light shone on our foibles and ignorance. Yes, these videos work because they aren’t original one liners, but mindless repeated statements made by even the most evolved folk. In fact, if you watch enough of these videos, you recognize yourself as both the Sh*t sayer  and the Sh*t recipient.

For those with infertility, these kinds of micro insults form part of daily life. How many times in a day do you have to explain to others that you don’t want to adopt or that it’s actually not a cure for infertility?

The cumulative impact of the cloddish remarks takes its toll on those trying to conceive. Mild irritation quickly turns to outrage as judgment is passed on one’s fertility status; “you’re defective” or “doing something wrong” being the damming verdict.  

Irrefutably for those in the know, the lack of understanding fast becomes a bore and it’s no wonder that those struggling to conceive have little tolerance or patience for their fertile counterparts.

However as I watched my own video start playing (‘Sh*t That Breeders Say’), I was able to put my anger aside and ponder an important question. Isn’t it strange that what seems incredulous and appalling to me -the  Sh*t recipient, is actually thought to be helpful by the Sh*t sayer?  

Of course if these kinds of comments go unchecked, tensions rise as does the resentment. But going into long explanations to help the Sh*t sayer understand why her comments are inappropriate, quickly starts to feel like an energy drain.

So what can be done?  Learn to disarm from their harm.

The last thing you want is for your body to feel tenser than it already is during this time, so learning to disarm from their harm will feel empowering. This is easier said than done, but partly your internal dialogue about the situation can change if you can ask yourself the question: is it possible that if I didn’t know better, or if I was fertile, I too might fall into the trap of asking stupid questions?

For myself, if the truth be told, I know I suffer from foot-in-mouth disease more often than I care to admit.

In more ways than one, the line between ‘them’ and ‘us’ is thin and ‘Sh*t That Breeders Say’ is really about the struggle that exists- for both sides.

 - This post was orginally posted on The American Fertility Association website on May 22, 2012.

localmom May 24, 2012 at 06:21 pm
And after writing all of this, it didn't occur to you that reducing parents to "Breeders" is one of the most cloddish remarks of all? Wow.
Fenella Das Gupta PhD Neuroscience, MFT May 24, 2012 at 08:18 pm
Dear Local Mom
Thank you for bringing up such an important point. Certainly the title of this piece has been highlighted in people's minds for many reasons, so let me explain further. The title took a long time to formulate; it needed to be distinguished from other infertility skits which had the words 'parents', 'fertiles', 'girlfriends', 'women' in etc etc. It also needed to be broad enough that both sexes would view the piece. So, after some research the term breeders surfaced. Although it has been used by the LBGTQ community to refer to heterosexuals, it is now most commonly used ( esp in the younger generation) as slang for 'parents'. This terms was most searchable given the format of the piece as a YouTube video. I hope that explains the title a bit better and thank you again for your remarks
Susannah Nation May 25, 2012 at 11:38 am
Mmm, I disagree, Dr. Gupta. “Breeders” is a derogatory term. It’s used by child-free-by-choice adults to disparage those who have children. And it does serve to reduce parents to nothing more than baby factories. Even before I had a child, hearing the word “breeders” got my hackles up.
There is another pejorative word that starts with “R” that might be quite searchable, too, but no enlightened writer would ever use it in a headline just to draw in more readers. (I do understand that the R word is much more inflammatory and cruel than the term “breeders.” I’m using it as an example.)
Eric Tarasoff May 25, 2012 at 11:59 am
I disagree, Susannah. I don't think the term 'breeders' is derogatory in the context used here. Rather, it's a humorous moniker used to designate mothers by want-to-be-mothers-not-child-free-by-choice adults. Ultimately, I don't think anyone is under attack here. It's just something to help those struggling laugh at their situation a bit.
Susannah Nation May 25, 2012 at 12:04 pm
Ah, I see. So as long as someone is laughing, no harm done?
localmom May 25, 2012 at 02:16 pm
The term has been around for a while. I found it offensive the first time I heard it, and I find it offensive now. It's meant as a put down. It's ironic that an offensive term is being used as the headline of an article/video that is meant to discuss the anger and frustration that childless (either by choice or not by choice) adults feel when they experience insensitivity from others.
ZorbaGT May 25, 2012 at 02:52 pm
mom
ZorbaGT May 25, 2012 at 02:53 pm
mom, did u read article after seeing the word?? Ironic if it was so offensive that you continued reading it, no?
localmom May 25, 2012 at 06:00 pm
Not ironic at all. I read it to try and understand why someone who is an MFT would use such an offensive term. For the record, I worked with two women who were childless...one by painful choice, and the other because of infertility. I saw first hand how painful the issue can be for many women, and I am very sensitive on that subject. I never ask other women when they are going to start a family, or anything like that. It doesn't mean it's OK to use a derogatory term towards people that do have children.
Susannah Nation May 25, 2012 at 06:39 pm
A top Google search result, from urban dictionary.com:
1: slang term used by some childfree people for one who has a child and/or has many after that, refuses to discipline the child/ren, thinks the sun rises and sets for their child/ren, look down upon people who do not have children, and are in general very selfish and greedy when it comes to their whims and those of their child/ren, especially if they can use their parenthood status or their children as an excuse to get their way. A female breeder is commonly called a moo, and a male breeder a duh.
Susannah Nation May 25, 2012 at 06:47 pm
I will speak only for myself. A title to a video on YouTube is one thing. Anything goes on YouTube, sure, fine, snicker snicker.
However, a professional blog entry on a community news web site is a different story. Make an edit, use good judgment, and consider your readership base (Novato is possibly the most family-dense town in Marin County). I am not at all arguing that there isn't deep insensitivity and ignorance out there aimed at women and families who struggle to have a child. However, having respect for all parties when speaking/writing/posting publicly is really one of the best measures of manners and professional integrity. Yeah, it might have been funny. But it's still disrespectful.
avocado May 25, 2012 at 07:19 pm
Interesting to note that before the mid-70's women who chose NOT to have childred - which also meant not to get married - were marginalized and treated as freaks and oddities. Today, chosing not to have children is acceptable, but gossip still flies. So a term like "breeders" hurts your feelings? You have NO idea.
LongTimeLocal May 25, 2012 at 09:45 pm
It's offensive. Perhaps not among colored maluan. Yes folks, just a twist of irony I don't mean, but why would you let me say such mean things just because I just said I didn't mean it as you did? - but it is offensive so why use it when you know people will be hurt. You don't need it to make the point about insensitivity. I would have thought as this isn't going to exactly help your practice - no idea why you want to make this point in this way. Yes, people are insensitive but you have no excuse for hurting people who are sensitive about this problem right now. Think.
LongTimeLocal May 25, 2012 at 09:54 pm
So, back to real life. You had an opportunity to educate people about a genuine issue and point to resources that might help, but you chose to reveal yourself as a Facebook muppet, and try to educate people on slang terms used by a minority as reality? Take it down and write something helpful, then people will perhaps take you seriously.
LongTimeLocal May 25, 2012 at 09:56 pm
From Wikipedia:
"Breeder" is a denigrating term for heterosexuals used in LGBT slang. The use in homosexual groups is drawn from the fact that their sexual activity cannot lead to reproduction, where as heterosexual sexual intercourse can, with implicit mocking by connotation of animal husbandry, the original usage of the word.
Eric Tarasoff May 25, 2012 at 10:24 pm
@Susannah: Certainly I have felt hurt by insensitive words or what I felt were jokes made in bad humor. And usually there was no malice meant from the offender...as I don't think there was here. Nonetheless, I'll acknowledge your point that harm can be done intentionally or not.
@LongTimeLocal: You seem like an intelligent person so I'm sure you can acknowledge the fallacy of trying to argue some point by calling someone a name (ie "Facebook muppet"). And yes, I see the irony in that last statement when we're here talking about the word "breeder." At worst, that was a stereotype used as part of a funny video title...but definitely not name calling. At any rate, sometimes it does take a little controversy to draw attention to an issue, as was done here. Did you read the article?
Amy Eden May 26, 2012 at 03:58 am
Are these passionate comments coming from anyone who has, themselves, struggled to conceive? Speak, become visible, share! This video is for you. This video is making visible, at long last, the perspective of the people who can't...just...get pregnant, can't just breed, and for whom it's not a simple matter of hello egg, hello sperm, meet womb. From the perspective of a woman who cannot just get pregnant, for her everyone around her appears as if they are baby-making machines, fertile-myrtles, breeders, etc.
I think Breeders is used smartly, and is richly apt -- in this context, it's perfect. Videos in this new genre of 'Sh*it People Say' are important conversation-starters, they are important, creative vehicles for expressing the endurance of pain. Just as the spirit of the most famous video ('Sh*t White Girls Say to Black Girls' by Franchesca Ramsey) was to use humor to facilitate a conversation about hurtful comments, this video is using humor (the skit in the video) to express the feeling of being invisible, unlucky, and different from what is still considered the majority--those with the ability to breed. Too often we want to solve the problem for a friend who's struggling to conceive-- but do we LISTEN? That's the simplest gift we can give to any woman who wants to create life and is struggling against her own body to do so. I see this video as a transformation of what I imagine was great personal pain, into something funny, evocative, and new.
LongTimeLocal May 26, 2012 at 04:00 am
Absolutely did read it and saw the potential lost. I could also see how it could be written to be helpful to many. If someone, an MFT, is so insensitive, and for that matter so ill-informed on urban slang, I think 'Facebook muppet' is quite appropriate. Facebook is not an insult nor is muppet. I made it up (credit me, but you chose to give it meaning), but my unspecified survey say it means 'person of the highest credentials' among the young and hip, surely you knew that? The point is, evidently, if someone laughs, everything is fine in a term. I heard someone laughing and using some ethnic slurs only the other day, so does that give me license to not use decent judgement? It's an amusing term to some, so must be OK, right? Is my point made clearly enough? Or should I just say f*ck to the whole matter as poor judgement seems to abound here
Obviously the star is actually a letter 'l'. What else could it be as I would never offend, just as I'm sure the original writer meant to use a 'p' instead of that same star.
LongTimeLocal May 26, 2012 at 09:56 pm
This isn't a post about infertility. It's about dumbing down society to accept language that is not either polite or civil and trying to explain it's normal. No, ma'am, I don't accept that. Nothing useful was conveyed other than some people are stupid enough to not consider their speech, and a defense of bad language. I draw the line and challenge her to actually produce something that is actually helpful to many. Well, yes, some people say stupid things, so what's the point beyond that?
Craig Belfor May 27, 2012 at 12:55 pm
What about mother or mom? Breeders to me are animals used only for the offspring that can be sold, like chickens, cattle, etc. Some people need to be more sensitive to the plight or choice of others, while at the same time others need to have thicker skin and roll with the punches of less educated idiots who don't mean to hurt. If hurt is intended, then people need to call them out on that and tell them off.
Remember that free speech doesn't give one the right to shout "FIRE" in a crowded theater, and words hurt. I myself, shooting from the hip, with my heart on my sleeve, have hurt many people, and I regret some of it.
Stinky May 27, 2012 at 01:12 pm
I have children. I don't like the idea of being thought of as a "breeder." Is this term used for fathers too? Or is it exclusive to women? I would use that term for animals whose only function is breeding, and then I would say it's wrong to keep an animal just for breeding purposes.
I can't imagine anyone could be a callous as the mother portrayed in the video. I also can't imagine anyone would willingly hang out with her after more than a couple of those stupid remarks. I think you could have chosen a better way to illustrate your point.
Jeff Arnold May 28, 2012 at 02:06 am
The title of this article is borderline offensive at best, primarily because of the word 'sh*t'.
Honestly, doesn't Patch.com have a little more class than to stoop to replacing a letter with an asterisk? Either go all the way or keep the curtain closed please. 'S***' would have been a marginally more acceptable compromise. Hearing the term 'breeders' used for biological parents is either chuckle-worthy or maybe kind of a sad attempt at being generational, I can't quite decide.

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